Ep. 63 – You Have More Power to Change the World Than You Think | Alan Gillanders

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Hello, Alan Gillanders

from Down Under.

Thank you for being

here. How are you?

Thank you, Shari. I am grateful to be on your program

and I'm very well, thank you.

I'm in Australia, and it's getting springtime here as lovely.

no yes What

time is it?

It's ten o'clock in the evening.

Oh, okay.

We need to get

going.

Yes. Okay, How about

we start with

you telling

everyone a

bit about your

self?

Yes, so I grew up in a Christian family.

And was lovely in the eastern part of Australia in Victoria.

And I liked that environment going to church.

But there was many questions that I didn't understand that when I asked the churches,

they couldn't give me the answers.

So I just accepted everything until my 20s when I got married.

Some things didn't work out.

and And after about eight or nine years, I decided to.

Really start putting questions more direct to what is God?

What is divine energy? What is consciousness?

How come other religions in the world have different God or names and they still have

miracles the same as Jesus did?

So I do refer a bit to God and Jesus because that's what I was brought up with.

But after not having all the answers, I had to venture to the East, to

India, to study. The Hinduism, Buddhism, Upanishads and

Vedas. And I found that miraculous accepting that everything is God.

And that made sense because if God made everything, then everything is God.

So I thought this is actually a little bit better than the Western religions

that I've been learning. So before I went there, Shari, I was in a marriage and

it wasn't the best. It wasn't the worst.

But I decided to ask God.

Why am I stuck in a marriage that's going nowhere and I'm not happy?

So I talked to my wife and I explained that I'm not happy.

Can we make things better? And after about a year, nothing changed.

So I thought now I'm stuck until my children turn 18 and have to be a good

father until that time. I can't divorce.

So I asked God, I don't know what you are or what you look like

or how to even talk to God.

But I'm stuck in a prison sentence until my children turn 18.

What am I supposed to do? You answer other people's prayers, but you don't answer my

prayer. I'm asking, what should I do?

I was driving my car. At that very instant, my wedding ring exploded off

my finger. Wow. Yeah.

It fell down in bits on the floor and I pulled the car over

and picked them up and put them in my hand and I looked at them and thought,

Something is listening to me, but there's no words.

And it gave me the answer. Your marriage is over.

I need to move on. So I did eventually another year later.

But then I went to India and that's why I found the Hinduism, the Buddhism, the

apanishads the Vedas had magical stuff of great things like the

Old Testament, of the Bible.

And I saw miracles like Jesus was doing.

And I thought, why don't we know about this in the Western world?

As a man, I went to see saibaba 20 000 people a day, and he's

performing miracles like Jesus.

And he said the same thing.

You can do the same miracles as me, but you don't believe.

You don't have faith. And Jesus said the same thing to his disciples.

You can do the same miracles as I do, even greater, but you don't believe.

Well, I thought, Shari, I believe, but nothing's happening.

How do I make a miracle happen?

I come back to Perth. I met a lovely lady.

We got married. It was a lovely time and still is lovely time.

But I journeyed together, discovered many things, and I found that

raising my vibration up to a higher level by having peace and harmony

to all my surroundings started to manifest things in my life without me

really realizing. And then I realized I was actually creating and shaping.

Everything in my life. Because the miracles come, I thought, were just

coincidence. And we all get them.

And we all think they're coincidence.

And we go on with life. And I thought, they're not coincidence.

I created them. There's too many.

And then I documented them down.

And the more I delved into thinking deeper in meditation, the more miracles happened

And now I know I'm actually making all this happen in my life.

And the other hand too. Positive makes positive.

Negative makes negative. This is basically how my journey got deeper into it.

Yes,

now there are two ways

beautifully

into what we

will talk about

today.

day.

Connectivity and

oneness.

I know for me

in my journey when

I began here

we are learning.

That there is no

you and me and them.

We are all one.

That's right. So, I

meditated on that

and asked God

What does

that mean

fundamentally?

mentally for me.

If we are all

one, how am I

to think that I am

not? getting it?" He

said, you are

not me.

I am you.

I am all.

And that

changed my

life, Because

now Our

perspective

changed us

to rest.

And we're now

feeling love

and acting in love

is that.

What you have

also come to

know.

It is what I've come to know.

And this is the part where I had to go into a bit of basic quantum

or It was also called What the Bleep.

And that was fascinating how the physics the physicists.

And the scientists were trying to explain what the

invisible energy is that they can't measure.

But the spiritual people were trying to explain what God is but can't measure.

And both going the same direction.

And that really set me deeper thinking.

And the physics was fascinating to know that inside the atoms we

have electrons, protons and neutrons.

but inside the electrons We have quarks, and inside the quarks,

there is nothing but strings of energy, negative and positive, and they

attract together. So I knew then that the entire universe is just

vibrating frequencies until they form together to form matter.

So where we see nothing, there is something, there is energy vibrating,

and that's all we are. So now I knew that every single person and

the chairs and the walls and everything around us, the animals, are all the same

vibrating matter, but we are a collection of 50 trillion cells to make

a human being. So everything is an illusion.

We're taught to see a human being because we've been educated.

But really, we're just 50 trillion cells vibrating matter, the same as everything

else. In different forms and made up of different ratios.

So I knew we're all one. And the animals sometimes feel our energy.

right Even wild animals have done that too.

When you emit love, you're emitting a vibrational energy.

is not something that's not there.

It is there. And that's the frequencies that matches theirs.

So then I knew that the frequencies, if it's low, will actually resonate with

another low frequency. And they might clash and have an argument.

So if you raise your frequency higher to be happy and bless everything with

love, the lower frequency doesn't connect.

So you become observer of people that have some troubles.

When you lower down, you have an argument.

If you stay up there, you can give them love and maybe you'll break that lower

frequency. And when they come up, they match together like a radio and a

transmitter. So then I knew we're all one.

And that is just amazing to know that we're all just energy in

different forms.

How would you,

or how did

you,

exactly

got to

that point?

I did it through

meditation.

And finally

connecting with

God.

Yes.

How did it happen?

Okay, so this is really good because it brings me to another, what I would think

is a miracle. So many years ago, I was getting into meditation and you know, the

first time I meditated, I just fell asleep yeah and and I I was

disappointed. But the person said, that's okay, you can go to sleep and I knew

it'll get better. And I wanted to stay in that twilight zone, but eventually I did.

And the best time for me was four o'clock in the morning when there was no one

around. My wife was asleep. I'd get out of bed and sit on the floor.

And I'd do this every day and wake up at four and there's no traffic outside,

no one going to work. And I do the meditation.

Sometimes I'd imagine a candle burning in front of me.

And I've watched the smoke going up and get stronger and smoother and softer and

my breath wouldn't affect it.

So then you're concentrating on that.

Instead of the things around you.

And I did this many, many times.

Now, this one time, Shari, I have to tell you, is it's a beautiful experience.

And your listeners, I was sitting there thinking these things of not much going

from my mind, just being in the moment.

And I felt like I was out of my body, looking back at

my body. And I thought, that's me on the floor.

This is amazing. I can't describe the feeling, but it was of absolute

bliss. But I was the wall, the curtain, the ceiling, the everything all

at once. And I thought, I am divine energy looking at my physical

being. And I thought, how do I go from here?

This is amazing. yeah And then I'd rip it straight back into my body and

I couldn't get back out there.

And I thought, now I know that I am divine energy in this body.

And I saw Jim Carrey talk about this about six months ago or eight months ago on

a video where he did the same thing and never got back there.

I might get back there, but that was just amazing to really, really experience

divine energy. I can help

you get there.

Because now I can get

there and I do go

there at any time

I want or that

I am called to

come. And if I

can do what anyone

can, The only

thing preventing

you is your ego.

Yes. Though you

loved it and wanted

to ask us more,

Your ego told you, no, no,

no,

You don't want that, You don't need that, You can't do

it with that. Kind of that

old conditioning

coming back.

We'll get.

rid of that block

and then you'll be out

there any time.

That sounds great. I will get the time.

You know what? I think I'm just too busy in life exploring this wonderful life as a

human being that I've come in to experience a human experiences because

I am non-physical. In the human being to explore and enjoy the

human experience that the universe wants to experience.

Because the universe can't experience it.

If you see a rainbow, the universe divine energy is the rainbow, but it can't

see it. So it comes into a human being to see it.

So I'm enjoying this experience, but not becoming obsessed with things.

So yes, I will have the time soon.

Maybe when I retire.

And do these more meditation.

That is an

excellent point.

I loved

being in that

divine light so

much and doing things.

In that realm

and others that

I kind of

ignored or

didn't want to deal with

this reality.

So, For the last

year and I have,

I am all about Earth,

visibility,

and doing,

and it is very interesting

what I came here

for. I love

that you

acknowledge that.

And what At that point,

did you realize

that

fulfilling

what you came here

for is

priority?

So I think that I came to realize this

reality only in the last three to four years.

Maybe I'm a very slow learner, but I've been studying this all my

life. Fascinated at where the real answer is.

And only a couple of years ago, I'm reading lots of

the Vedas, Upanishads, Hermetic Principles, the Bible.

I don't reread it. I remember so much.

But the critical things stay in my mind.

My father and I are one, Jesus said.

As above, as below.

the Hermetic philosophy from thousands of years ago.

As above is heaven, so below.

uh Thy will be done on earth as in heaven.

As in heaven is the higher consciousness.

So whatever's planted there creates in the physical.

So I knew if I plant a seed in the thought, in the in the garden of Eden,

that's where all manifestation takes place, then it has to mature.

And if we speak it, The vibration through our mouth affects the

field and the field is affected and has to react back.

It has no choice. So when I started doing more and more and more,

I started realizing we are the controller of everything, especially

when it's been written in the Bible in the Old Testament.

I am and the things about what God is.

We don't have to say. A being or the word god we can just use

divine energy, divine spirit, the higher consciousness.

There's just that energy and it manifests all over the world in everyone's lives

and it's giving everyone what they're thinking about, whether it be negative or

positive, good or bad. We have to be very careful about that.

So when you try and give positive energy all the time, Things open, the doors

open, people smile at you, they say things to you and they think this is a blissful

life if you want it to be. I know it's hard for some people that are in troubles

with bad marriages or jobs or family issues and they don't know how to

get out of it. But I hope in the book I've written that might help them, this new

book which comes out next month, they will understand a bit more and maybe um

grasp what I'm trying to say.

Tell us about the book

and the title.

The title is called the

Sacred Hum of I Am because the I

am is the two most important words in everything we could learn and in the

Bible and everything else. I am happy.

I am sad. I am whatever I am.

I create what I am. And it's been legend saying, as a man think I am,

so I will be. Of course we will be.

So it is mentioned so many times in many spiritual traditions, I am

is the word. The word is God.

And that is that is the energy, I am.

We create it soon as we say it.

So that frequency. Is everywhere in vibrational form

through our being. That's all we are and everything else.

And when we resonate the same, they match up.

So that's what I asked God, what should I call my book?

Because I'd written a lot about frequencies and vibrations.

And the message came to me, Shari, that said, I am is the answer.

I thought, well, I can't just have that.

So I asked again, God, what should I call my book out loud?

And I said, I am is the answer.

Well, that's it. I have to have I am.

But then it's not enough. So I thought the sacred hum is the frequency that's

permeating everywhere. And that's where I got the word, the sacred hum of

I am, that vibration is everywhere.

That's the title of the book.

And it will be available in Amazon and in bookstores.

And on my website, allengalanders.com, People can look it up and order it.

But I'm very happy to communicate by email to people that have questions, And I'll

probably have some lessons on there to help them.

So this is how the book was born.

You mentioned it took nine

years.

Yes. I mean, talk about a

love. And healing

journey.

Take us through

that. I know writing

my book, though it

only took two years,

was cathartic.

And a huge part of

my journey.

Okay, so I work still full-time in the oil and gas and mining

industry in Western Australia.

I haven't always worked in that.

I've been in businesses for 25 years.

And miracles happen along the way, but I just dismiss them as, Wow, that was so

weird. A person appeared out of nowhere to give me a message and then disappeared.

Things materialized from nowhere.

And I just kept them in my mind thinking, I'm lucky to experience these.

And when I got offshore into oil and gas on a platform offshore, I kept thinking

about this because all the people around me were talking about football and motor

cars and bikes and the hiking and rubbish that I wasn't interested in

for me. I was interested in learning more about spiritual and consciousness.

And so I started writing them in a notepad every day.

And people would say, what are you writing all the time?

No, just notes to help me remember.

And that's what took nine years ago I started doing that.

But only about maybe two or three years ago, my daughter said, Dad, why don't you

write down your personal experiences and document them into a little book that

people can read them and enjoy their miracles?

Okay, I started doing that.

But as I was thinking, how did that happen?

God, the energy, divine energy, came to me in the meditation and sent me

the message in my mind. Not a not a person speaking, but the

thoughts become strong. And I thought, that is great.

And I started writing them down and then looking them up on the internet because

now we have the internet. Many years ago, there was none.

yeah And I thought, this this is right.

So I then a book started developing.

and And okay, one day, not long ago, I was at home and I had to go to the doctor.

And just quickly, uh I had a great thought about some things.

And a video come on my phone, like a Facebook or Youtube or something.

And I thought, it's talking about what I was thinking about.

That's that's a bit unreal because that's what I've written about in my book.

Perhaps the phone is listening to me?

yeah it could be.

And I flipped it through. And another one come up and I was a bit

annoyed because it's like someone has beaten me to it by talking about

what I've written in the book.

So I was really a bit annoyed about that.

So I thought, I've got to go to the doctor, close my phone up, went down to

the doctor's surgery. And I'm sitting in the surgery thinking, that's a bit

annoying. But a message came to me.

The message said strongly in my mind, we're not trying to show you that

someone's beating you to it.

We're showing you that you're on the right path and what you're seeing and writing is

true. And shall we a big smile come my face yeah and I just smile

beaming, and I felt uplifted.

Yes, this is how it works. This is how divine energy talks to you.

It shows you just got to listen.

yeah So I know I'm on the right path.

And I'd said to my wife a few months or maybe six months ago, you know what?

There's nothing I don't know.

And she's looking at me puzzled.

And I said, look, I'm not a scientist or physicist or a doctor or mathematician,

but I know everything in life to be happy.

And I just want to tell everyone in the world, how they can be happy and create

their own life. Yeah.

Anyone who has walked

in your shoes like

I have.

And millions

of others, Yet,

there are billions

of people who

don't believe

it's possible.

What? would you say

to those

skeptics who

are listening,

or even listening to

others

see what we are?

and just cool, cool about

it.

So I've met many people that said, I don't believe in God.

That's okay. I'm an atheist.

That's okay. I don't really care what you believe in, but you can't deny there's a

divine energy that is outside of your being that you think is there.

It's not actually outside. It's connected to you.

Would you say that would tell me, are you talking about a soul?

You could call it a soul. I'm talking about an energy that's there anyway.

I don't care if you call it God or any other name.

yeah It is there. And so I tell them that you are connected to this divine energy

and it talks to you by emotion and feeling and love.

And they get interested and they say, I like what you're saying because I don't

ever hear that from religious people no because they want to talk about something

separate. No, there's nothing separate.

You are the divine energy in a physical form.

So you will you will get these messages.

So they start, the atheists or, okay, people that just don't believe in

anything, the skeptics, as you say, I have had the miracle things and

you have, and they have, but they don't realize that they are.

But if they read things in my book, they will see the author being myself

talking about the miracles that happened to me.

Now, they may think, oh, yeah, but I have that too.

That's nearly nothing much. It is something because it happened.

There is some larger things in there that are just unexplainable that happened to

me, and I know 100% that they are real.

So the reader now will read the book, I'm hoping, and they will say,

well, this guy talks about not just theory, but the practicality of

how it happened, rather than you can do this.

No, This is how I did it, and you can do that too.

That's what I wanted in this book.

You and I

in our books talk

about how it

happens, What is

possible.

It shows up in

Different ways,

But like you

eloquently said,

The divine or

people's spirit tends

to speak to them.

in ways that are

meaningful.

So, for you, it might

be the ways you said,

For others, and for

me, even

today.

Music,

songs come

to me and they are

annoying at

times. They come and they're not

always for me.

And then there are some that

keep coming, keep coming, Until I

acknowledge and

resolve of

whatever the mouth says, it

is behind

them,

But God, divine,

whatever, They

come to you in the way

they know you'll

understand.

Yes, everybody is different.

So they may get messages through different methods.

So you get it through the music.

I've had it through the music.

I've asked Divine Energy, how can I promote my book?

my publishers are going to do that in the next four weeks.

But I would like to be something to do something.

What can I do? And a song came to my head in about

30 minutes and I wrote the entire words in two hours.

And then I got up and then I thought, wow, how could I write such beautiful

words all about what's in my book?

Now I need music. And I went back and meditated.

Now I need a tune. And the music came and it's a beautiful tune

and I've recorded it and it will be out to the world in probably four weeks.

So I know that's a method for me.

But yes, other people will enjoy this song

called The Sacred Hum of I Am.

So the song is starts with those words.

It's called I Am Love. And they will hear this soon.

but That is a method for me and for you and other people hear it through their

relatives, their friends. They might see it through art, through books.

We're all different and our journeys are different.

And we came into the human being to enjoy this journey.

And everyone's journey is different.

And when this is over, we'll probably go back to being divine energy and maybe

choose another journey. And each journey we choose.

We want to experience as a human being.

And it might seem painful because last one was a wealthy,

exorbitant lifestyle.

It could be. And this one you think, well, I want to experience what it's like to be

a pauper. And people feel, oh, so sorry for that person.

But that person maybe chose that.

And this is how we go because we're only physical and we will die.

But we're not really that. We are the divine energy.

It's just experiencing itself in a human form.

Beautifully said, And

that takes me to a

totally different angle

on this.

That so many

people feel.

Sadness and loss

and grief when a

loved one dies or

passes.

I, for a long time,

was raised.

To go that dark

path, though I have

always believed in

a higher being.

My parents never

connected us in this

realm. Religion

to the

afterlife.

So,

what you just said should

give people a new

view of, hey,

we're here. For a short time,

but our energy

so keeps on going.

It does.

It does. So we shouldn't become obsessed with the desires of the human

being in the five senses. they're the They're the false gods because they can

never be happy. No matter how much you feed or taste or smell or hear something,

you only experience at that minute, that instant, and then it's gone, and then you

want more. They're the false gods because you think they give you happiness, not

some physical Buddha or golden calf, as I used to think.

So we are here to experience it and enjoy it as a human being

and always listen to the guidance that's here guiding us.

We can never go wrong, and that's what I think, if I listen.

So if I was in a job and they said to me, sorry, Alan, we don't need you anymore.

We have to put you off. Don't be sad about that because the divine energy

has a better plan for you and then you'll end up in a better job or better

relationship. It can be very heartbreaking going through a marriage breakup,

but most people will find down the track six months or a year later, if

that didn't happen, I wouldn't be where I am now.

so I'm better off. And this is how a whole life will go.

So think ahead. Whatever happens, I'm going to accept it and I'm going to love

it. And I know divine energy is always guiding me for the best that I can't see.

And that's how I live every day.

Thank you for listening. If today's conversation resonated with you and you're

ready to explore your own healing journey or intuitive gifts, I'd love to work with

you. I offer psychic medium readings.

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This is Shari Leigh Roberts.

Until next time, remember, you're never alone.